Friday, November 2, 2007

Denial of Watson deeply disturbing

From today's NYT editorial in the times:

"Africa is still dirt poor — with an average annual income per capita of merely $600 and 300 million people living in poverty. Every year, nearly a million children die of malaria and more than two million die before they are a month old.

Nobody can know for certain whether Africa south of the Sahara might be on the cusp of shaking its endemic destitution and starting up the ladder of development. But it has its best chance in decades, and it would be a crime not to try to grasp this opportunity."

Can you comprehend that statistic? By the time you finish reading this blog, 10 more children will be dead because of malaria. And guess what? High commodity prices aren't going to do it. Increasing our aid budget won't do it. The peace corps won't do it. Africa will not grasp this opportunity. And it is a crime, just not in the way the NYT sees it.

Well, Watson was the one who said it best (taken from the interview ):

He says that he is “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”, and I know that this “hot potato” is going to be difficult to address. His hope is that everyone is equal, but he counters that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”. He says that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because “there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level”. He writes that “there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so”.

Yeah, that's the truth, and it's a sad, politically incorrect, taboo truth.

But it must be said, and children are dying now from very preventable diseases because Africa does not have the intellectual power to cure them. Infants, who have no knowledge of political correctness or Gould's straw men - are the ones who suffer because Jeffrey Sachs and the ivory tower can't bring themselves to realize that IQ matters.

To anyone who reads this and becomes upset, like many haters in the past: do yourself a service and read the full defense of Watson's statements here.

Then, I'm willing to take all criticisms. Only after you have read the science behind race.

To anyone who doesn't agree with me but thinks their time is too precious to waste on "racist" propoganda:

Villify and hate me all you want (which is the reason us HBD have been driven to pseudonymity).

But realize, that kid is going to DIE. And all your conferences and hate mail is not going to do a god damn thing about that.

Do you really give a shit about those dead children? I really don't think so. I really think that you're more concerned with creating the APPEARANCE of caring about them than actually giving a shit about them by shouting down Watson and preaching hope and social engineering at conferences and in development class. You preach hatred towards those who ask the difficult questions.

In fact, your hatred actually CONDEMNS the child to death because you are not willing to ask the hard questions about africa. Therefore, we get stuck with the status quo. China moves in and africa probably will soon be worse off (if you have any doubts, ask the Darfur victims, who constantly get attacked by military hardware financed by China).

The children die, you can go home and go christmas shopping guilt free because you've done you're daily dose of spouting PC rhetoric and shouting down those who think otherwise.

Shame on you.


David Alexander said...

Watson would only be retracting his intelligence claims if he considered those claims tantamount to claims of 'superiority' or 'inferiority', which he clearly emphasizes he doesn't. Watson is saying that questioning that all races are equal in intelligence is not racism, it is trying to figure out why the world looks the way it does, with the greatest engineers and the greatest musicians disproportionately coming, in a systematic way, from different racial backgrounds. In other words culturally separated people of African descent have been musical innovators across a diverse range of cultures (in the Middle East, Africa, Europe, North and South America, and the Caribbean), while culturally separated people of East Asian descent have excelled at math and science across a diverse range of cultures (in Asia, Europe, North and South America, and the Caribbean).

This is not a claim of racial 'superiority' or 'inferiority', either in terms of legal worth or even in terms of overall talent - since groups all have different strengths and weaknesses. It is simply the recognition that people of different genetic heritage, on average, reveal different talents wherever they are found in the world, and there is one explanation that best accounts for these observations: evolution.

I'm black of Caribbean orgins and I've noted the interesting fact about this debate is that it seems that it's mostly whites discussing this issue with other whites. The media hasn't involved any black people in this dicussion at all.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, in regards to the archetypal Sub-Saharan boy, there's a pessimistic side of me that argues that we might as well let him die. His future is still rather bleak, he'll always remain a poor African and his children will remain as poor low IQ Africans incapable of leaving poverty.

The real problem that I have with the IQ stats is that it makes black people look bad. I'm not going to argue whether they're true or false, but the problem for me is that it's depressing and that in the short to medium term, there isn't much that we can do about it, and maybe we shouldn't do anything about it in the first place. Maybe my emotions are clouding my judgement, but I do fear that the release of the information will just make lives more miserable for black people and just justify mistreatment irregardless of the intelligence of that person. Yes, the theory behind the Bell curve shows that, there are some black people who would me more intelligent than the average white person, but that's a cop out. If the bulk of the black population is less intelligent than the white and Asian population, then most certainly it's a problem, not for just people in the United States, but for the global community and for black people as whole regardless of their position in society or their location in the world. People who argue for genetics may try their best to cover up the glaring failures of the black community with supposed talent in other fields like music and athletics, but that's pathetic and shameful, and due to the way those fields are set up, it really doesn't guarantee anything for black people. As far as I'm concerned our low IQ does make us inferior to white people, and it's rather sad that one should have to say this. IQ is the raw power that allows us to take advanatage of the other gifts that we have, and allows us to do well in schooling and in life. Black people are simply just lacking in this, and we're doomed as a race to being pathetic failures that serve as the butt of jokes for the smarter groups. The sad part is that even with Affirmative Action, black people are failures, and I'd imagine that without such programs, the black middle and upper classes would never exist, and the only remotely affluent blacks would be, sadly, those in the sports and entertainment fields.

Personally, just reading about this stuff makes one mull over thoughts of suicide and inducing racial genocide upon one's own race. The thought of this being true can easily set one into a deep, unescapable depression. Whites will say that I should just concentrate on my own life and doing well, but I just simply think that way. This type of information certainly determins how other whites will treat me, and I don't want to spend the rest of my life being associated with the pathetic inferior races and lower 1/3rd of the planet. Whites have something to show for their achievement while blacks don't. Jazz and athetletic ability aren't useful and the modern world and count for squat. Effectively, we are useless, and maybe we should just die off. It just simply doesn't make sense to bother dealing with blacks, nor should whites bother with spending the resources needed to bring our IQs up the near white levels. IMHO, the only way that blacks would ever be socially accepted is if our IQ were averaging at 125, meaning that the bulk of the black population would be professionals, not blue collar servants and labourers in insulting, low wage positions. What's the point of living when you'll always be at the bottom serving the rest of humanity? What's the point of living when everybody will presume that you're stupid. Yes, the IQ data may be true, but as I've said before, it only gives racists the tools to engage in their hatred against blacks, and it gives credence to others to join them in their hatred. Such widespread knowledge would simply turn white people into racists who would hate black people. This information isn't the salvation for blacks, it's the virtual dead end for them. It essentially means that it's perfectly safe to fire black people, relegate them to poor low paying jobs and thus, it will wipe out the fragile black middle and upper class, and only create one large giant pool of poor blacks. This will only reinforce more racism and create more social division in our world.

I've given up on the quest to look for a white girlfriend and future wife and having children. I just can't bring children into a world where they'll be inferior and where they'll never be accepted, nor be able to succeed. I might as well hide in a cave for the rest of my life.

johnny five said...

DA said:

This type of information certainly determins how other whites will treat me, and I don't want to spend the rest of my life being associated with the pathetic inferior races and lower 1/3rd of the planet.

Ha! I always knew you were really white. The constant trolling is just all too obvious.

TabooTruth said...


Whatever your dating situation is, like many have said on Roissy's blog, you do possess an emotional depth that many women should find attractive, or at least intriguing.

Honesty, I've posed the same questions to Steve Sailer that you have here but haven't received any great answers, other than people thinking its ok.

Coming from an Indian background (average IQ 83, but much higher in the US) I also have serious questions on the implications of all of this. All I say is that we have to prepare modern academia for the inevitability of this information getting out. Either we confront these issues fully prepared and with alot of ethics behind us, or we allow Steve Sailer and Hal Turner to create militant groups that will try to exterminate the blacks.

Oh yeah, and I don't like reading about kids dying in Africa because of easily preventable diseases.

Anyway, don't let your emotions cloud your judgement. You are still in control of YOUR life.

Suicide? Racial Genocide? Come on man. Get hold of yourself!

Look, sterilization is honestly the best way to go, and it's not really that unethical, or is it?

Or should we just wait for the singularity?

" IMHO, the only way that blacks would ever be socially accepted is if our IQ were averaging at 125,"
If that was the case, then say goodbye to the dating prospects of anyone that isn't black.

Pinkstarfish said...

"Look, sterilization is honestly the best way to go, and it's not really that unethical, or is it?"

Dude, you must be the same person as David Alexander. This stuff is hilarious. You're a transparent joke.

TabooTruth said...


Ouch. Remember, reproduction is a privilege, not a right.

Any substantial comments? Or do you get off on pot shots at bloggers.