I think the New York Times just crossed a pretty serious line. Honestly, it will be very hard to go back from here to the old days of denying the validity of race and intelligence, and IQ.
Check it out here
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Some notable quotes from the article:
"There are clear differences between people of different continental ancestries,”
"Last month, a blogger in Manhattan described a recently published study that linked several snippets of DNA to high I.Q. An online genetic database used by medical researchers, he told readers, showed that two of the snippets were found more often in Europeans and Asians than in Africans."
"But the incident (referring to Watson) has added to uneasiness about whether society is prepared to handle the consequences of science that may eventually reveal appreciable differences between races in the genes that influence socially important traits."
"Yet even some self-described liberals argue that accepting that there may be genetic differences between races is important in preparing to address them politically."
"“Regardless of any such genetic variation, it is our moral duty to treat all as equal before God and before the law,” Perry Clark, 44, wrote on a New York Times blog. It is not necessary, argued Dr. Clark, a retired neonatologist in Leawood, Kan., who is white, to maintain the pretense that inborn racial differences do not exist."
(Again, we return to the motif of RELIGION being NECESSARY to guarantee equality of humanity, but I digress)
"Race, many sociologists and anthropologists have argued for decades, is a social invention historically used to justify prejudice and persecution. But when Samuel M. Richards gave his students at Pennsylvania State University genetic ancestry tests to establish the imprecision of socially constructed racial categories, he found the exercise reinforced them instead."
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The most mind boggling thing about the article? The online version links to GNXP here which then links to Malloy's defense of Watson here
Also, the article links to Half Sigma
who then links to his well articulated response to the article .
Honestly, I am sitting on the edge of my seat here. A critical mass of people are going to be reading these blogs, potentially. This means that potentially millions of people are going to read Malloy's defense of Watson and confirmation of the race differences in intelligence.
Who knows, maybe we can even emerge from pseudonymity!
The next few years could potentially define us as a species by how we handle this devastating truth.
Stop watching reality TV, people. There are interesting things happening in the world.
Random thought, but what if this big revelation follows the same path as what happened when the seduction community became public? That these ideas would permeate into average minds but not stick? I doubt it. Too much riding on old ideas.
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"? It's not that bad. Life is interesting."
No, I mean a redemption of what you believed before I guess. This isn't a good worldview to live with.
I really dont think there's anything new here that's going to change anyone's mind. Science or not, people have known the truth about race/IQ for just about ever, and yet there are still a large majority of people who either deny what they know or write it off as just an unpleasant truth and live their lives as if it wasnt true. Nothing is going to change Western culture's reliance on the ideal of a world in which all races are equal in all ways because it would destroy Western culture to do so. If people were going to change their minds because of scientific studies, they would have done so long ago because even in the 70s the picture was pretty clear. This is like expecting Creationists to start believing in evolution every time a new dinosaur is discovered.
Actually most people who I talk about this stuff with had no idea, previously, what the research said and accepted PC dogma straight up.
This article, specifically, may not change things, but it will accelerate the process that began when Watson spoke his mind.
I'm that one commenter again about "changing your views". Seriously, what have you read that's changed you so much?
I don't know what you are referring to: atheism or HBD?
In fact, when did I really change my views? When I discovered singularitarianism back in 2005, which then led me to HBD (posthuman future by fukayama), which got rid of whatever benevolent theism I had left.
A healthy dose of Sam Harris and the evolutionary psychology of Dawkins and the pick up/seduction community has only further confirmed the view that humans are simply biological machines that are slaves to our evolutionary history.
Check it out, it's interesting stuff.
Though, I admit, when there is a scientific/biological explanation from everything from love to God to poverty, it makes life seem rather odd.
I figure I'm too young to avoid the truth.
Oh, I meant 30-36 IQ points.
He doesn't say that it is bad. He simply creates an argument (too elaborate to summarize) that the alteration of man through biological engineering will create severe human inequality. To make this point, he brought in significant information on race differences in intelligence, and that peaked my interest.
And.... what else have you read?
Rushton, Bell Curve, Lynn, Jared Taylor, World on Fire (on market dominant minorities), Intelligence Race and Genetics (conversations with Jensen).
What's sorely been lacking are in depth discussions of policy implications. That's why I don't think it's quite time to celebrate yet.
We still have to make sure the nutjobs and whackos don't take this information and cause serious trouble.
Well, I never found a single one of those books impressive. Do you have some sort of quick messaging system at all?
Uh, not really, you know, the whole pseudonymity thing?
Anyway, you haven't found any of those books impressive? Wow you have high standards for a taboo field of research.
First,
Jewish people are the most intelligent. They win almost 40% of the Nobel Prize's and they have a small population of only 14 million. So by far they exceed the other races in intelligence. The other races having huge numbers and such small contributions.
Second,
IQ tests, test intellectual conformity, not creativity and originality. This would explain the Asian high IQ's. They as a people are the ultimate conformists.
In IQ tests there is typically only one answer to the problem. That problem being a social conformity to reason. But everyone knows that Genius's and all of the greatest developments in the world are not the product of conformity. Conformity never breeds creativity. We can see this in the lack of influence the Asian population has had on Science. China used to be called the "sick man" of Asia. Their population is massive and their contribution to innovation is almost nil. We can see this lack of originality in their adoptation of European philosophies, I.e. Communism.
Friedrich Nietzsche and other Philosophers have critized Asians. Nietsche used the words "Pallid osification" to describe Orientals.
Pallid: lacking sparkle or liveliness.
Osification: The process of becoming set and inflexible in behavior, attitudes, and actions. Inflexible conformity, rigid unthinking acceptance of social conventions.
The reality is Asian people have yet to understand that laws and rules are arbitrary. Europeans make the rules and Asian's follow them.
It also doesn't make sense that Asian's are considered smart because of the fact that they have destroyed their own countries. This is due to over-population and their basic lack of enviromental understanding.
It is also common scientific fact that women who have many children are ignorant, and those who have less children are more intelligent. This has already been proven in studies. So it seems strange to say that Asians are smart when the obviousness of their backwards countries, and medieval lifestyle makes them contrary to that premise.
Europeans have the most advanced civilizations and every other race has yet to meet these levels other than the Japanese. The Japanese only being good at copying other people's inventions and making them better. Other than that their original creativity is lacking as well. They took American cars and made them better. They took the German camera and made it better. And they took German steel and made it better. Otherwise the greatest advances still come from Europeans and Jews. Other than that the Orientals have yet to produce an Einstein or a Thomas Edison.
When it comes to Black people. It makes sense that they have low intellectual comformity, I.e. IQ tests. They are far too creative to be trapped in this unoriginal form of conditioning. You can tell their creative capacity in their athletics, music, dance, and the way they talk. They by far exceed the Asiatic races in these areas. Being better singers, musicians ect. Blacks far exceed Asians in emotive expression. In all of North America there is only one or two famous high-paid Asian actors.
Reality, Europeans rule the world and they have allowed others to exist only out of desire for economic bennifet. They, (Europeans) are also the physically strongest, winning the Strongest Man competitions again and again.
The greater the conformity, the weaker the race. Thus we see the races as they are today. The wild animal being bred out of man, and the physically impotent, conformist thriving.
Otherwise "Group psychology" is the most destructive thing in the world. All these stereotypes are false when it comes to the individual. Individualism is the most important thing for this time. All countries, Relgions, groups need to dissolve for man to live in peace.
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